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Responses to date: Materials Engineering;
80% Metallurgical Engineering;
19%
From: Roger Trefzger 4/1/2008 1:55:29 PM
Plant Metallurgist / GKN Sintert Metals
Metallurgical Engineering - "Metallurgical" is less ambiguous; even this is a very broad area
From: rigaud 5/9/2008 3:06:43 PM
professor emeritus / Ecole Polytechnique
Metallurgical Engineering - materials is too broad...not truly industrally oriented.
materials seems more fashonable, more appealing, but represents too many different expertise
From: Chuck 5/9/2008 4:18:16 PM
Edwards / Cameco Corporation
Metallurgical Engineering - "Materials" may sound sexy or trendy, but I suggest it does not accurately reflect what we do, which is the engineering of metals extraction, production, fabrication, etc. So I vote for "Metallurgical Engineering."
From: Chris Twigge-Molecey 5/9/2008 4:41:37 PM
/ HATCH
Metallurgical Engineering - Metallurgical (process) engineering reflects the activities of the bulk of our membership and will be a critically underserviced discipline for our industry and labs going into the future.
Even as we get into nanomaterials, MMCs and composites the processing (fabrication) will be the major challenge.
I don't really understand what "materials " adds in our context. To me it reflects wood, plastics and natural fibre based materials....of no relevence to us.
From: Tony Warner 5/9/2008 8:22:07 PM
Senior Metallurgical Consultant / WorleyParsons, Toronto, Canada
Metallurgical Engineering - I call myself a metallurgical consultant not materials consultant because of what I do. The two are somewhat different.
From: Zoheir Farhat 5/9/2008 10:02:41 PM
Prof / Dalhousie University
Materials Engineering - Metsoc members come from different backgrounds that cover a wide range of materials not just metals.
From: Priti Wanjara 5/9/2008 10:16:56 PM
Research Associate / National Research Council Canada
Metallurgical Engineering - The word metallurgy encompasses materials and actually refers to the study of the physical and chemical behavior of materials (including metallic elements, their intermetallic compounds, and their alloys as well as the way in which materials are applied for their practical use (extraction, metalworking, joining, heat treatment, etc.). Hence, it may be trendy to use Materials Eng. but Metallurgical Eng. encompasses our research and industrial activities.
From: Engin Ozberk 5/11/2008 10:14:16 PM
VP Innovation & technology Development / Cameco Corporation
Metallurgical Engineering - We need both and they mean different things. We cannot use one to mean the other. We should be given one more choice like Metallurgical and Materials Engineering
From: Chris Pickles 5/12/2008 9:30:01 AM
Professor / Queen's University
Metallurgical Engineering - The name "Materials Engineering" would appeal to a broader audience particularly for things like the CMQ, but the uniqueness of "Metallurgical Engineering" would be lost. If we stay Metallurgical, the focus of the Society will be different from our colleagues in other countries. If we become a materials society can we survive?
From: Nathan Stubina 5/12/2008 11:50:47 AM
Manager R&D Process Development / Barrick Gold
Metallurgical Engineering - Metallurgical Engineering. This is closer to what we represent.
From: Hubert King 5/12/2008 3:19:05 PM
Professor / University of Victoria
Metallurgical Engineering - Many of us are now in departments of Mechanical Engineering as Metallurgical Engineering departments are being amalgamated and the name Metallurgical is being dropped. Also, a number of us now conduct research on other materials, in my case ceramics, in addition to metals, and would like these materials included in MLink.
From: Dimitrios Filippou 5/15/2008 11:13:34 AM
Metallurgist / Rio Tinto Iron & Titanium
Metallurgical Engineering - I chose "Metallurgical Engineering" because (i) this is what our industry has been about, and (ii) "Materials Engineering" is a very broad and multidisciplinary subject. However, the fact that almost 50% of those responding choose "Materials Engineering" shows that there is a need for an organisation (maybe a separate institute or society) which covers materials in general.
From: Masoud 5/15/2008 11:22:51 AM
Gorjian / SNC Lavalin
Metallurgical Engineering - Material Engineering may be applied to all material(metal,plastic,ceramics,chemicals,cosmetics...) while Metallurgical Engineer brings almost the actual meaning to the mind of what we are doing as Metallurgist.
From: Steve James 5/15/2008 1:16:02 PM
Asset Manager / Nyrstar Clarksville, Inc.
Metallurgical Engineering - Metallurgical Engineering - We focus on a specific subset of materials, metals. I agree with the points voiced by others - the term materials is way too broad.
From: David Heard 5/15/2008 1:30:27 PM
Graduate Student / Dalhousie University
Materials Engineering - I do not feel that one name is better then the other, because I feel that both names describe inherently different curriculum's. From my personal point of view Metallurgical Engineering is more process related, while Material Engineering is more applied Material Science. I feel they do compliment on another, but are uniquely different.
From: Sunil Kumar 5/15/2008 2:56:00 PM
Consultant / HATCH
Metallurgical Engineering - Although, the word "materials" is supposed to cover both the metallics and the non metallics, I still feel that the word "materials" does not reflect the "metals group" adequately. So we should continue to have both metals and materials - instead of the "or" we should use the "and". In my view, the materials are more inclined towards than the non-metallics as compared to the metallics. Considering that the metallics rule the materials world in terms of tonnage, I think we should give proper justice to the Metallics and consider to distinguish between the two streams. It is important since both the fields are too vast and educational institute should pay proper attention to both - I must mention that there is a huge shortage of engineers in the Metals Industry and if we change the name to Materials Engineering, this will only be the start of the end for the Metals !! We need to be very careful about this aspect. Just imagine - we have very few universities left that are teaching iron and steel processing !! Will CIM do anything about this ?
From: Andrew Doolittle 5/16/2008 11:23:18 AM
Process Engineer / Wardrop Engineering Inc.
Metallurgical Engineering - I prefer 'metallurgical' rather than 'materials'. Metallurgical stresses the improtance of material properties, structure and chemistry over the material itself. This is the nature of the work I do in mineral processing. For shaping and assessing the strengths of the finished material shapes, I think materials engineering makes more sense. Of course there is crossover at the boundary where the properties are effected by the shaping, but I'd say unless this is your field there isn't much ambiguity, and for that matter if it is your field then either title is probably acceptable.
From: Jonathon Brown 6/19/2008 12:59:06 PM
Director, Process Engineer / Fluor Canada
Metallurgical Engineering - Focusing on Materials engineering ignores the various other aspects of metallurgical engineering, hydrometallurgy, pyrometallurgy, corrosion, etc. I think it would be a disservice to many of our members to lessen their contribution to the field of process metallurgy by focusing solely on materials.
From: Stephane Beland 6/19/2008 2:31:27 PM
Process Metallurgist - Consultant / BBA
Metallurgical Engineering - "Materials" is easier to pronounce for those not in the industry, as I found some of those people thought "Metallurgical" had something to do with medicine...
But on a more serious note, Metallurgical Engineering describes better what we in the metals industry do, whereas I reserve "Materials Engineering" to those who deal moreso with non-metallic materials.
From: Steven Soch 6/25/2008 3:50:40 PM
QA Engineering Student / Nexen Inc
Metallurgical Engineering - Metallurgical Engineering. When I try to explain what field I'm in, I say Materials and people look at me weird, which then I have to explain that its "Metallurgical but expanded to ceramics and non-metals". Metallurgical is easier to communicate and for the general public to understand
From: Robert Carlyle 6/25/2008 7:47:38 PM
retired / Robert Carlyle/Process Engineering Consultant
Metallurgical Engineering - Materials Eng suggests a much broader field than Met Eng
From: Homer 12/1/2008 3:53:41 PM
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